Antes de cruzar a fronteira para a Uganda, atravessamos a linha do Equador. Percebi que já tinha viajado um bocado, pois iniciei bem abaixo do tropico de Capricórnio, além disto, minha viagem estava sendo para o Nordeste e não direto para o norte. Foi uma viagem bem tranquila. Pegamos um ônibus executivo, bem melhor que os da Tanzânia. Tinham so 3 poltronas por fileiras, tipo os nossos ônibus leito, mas as comparações param por aí. A viagem passou super rápido, e fomos apreciando a bonita paisagem.
A Uganda é chamada de Pérola da África, além de diversos outros apelidos. Local onde o turismo tem crescido consideravelmente, mas deve aumentar ainda mais. A estabilidade tem aumentado, mas ainda existem alguns graves problemas na fronteira com o Sudão. Difícil não associarmos a Uganda ao louco do Idi Amim. Para quem não lembra dele, vale ver o filme ” O ultimo rei da Escócia”, o qual fala da historia dele e da Uganda na época. Para se entender um pouco mais, a situação do pais não era melhor antes, e nem ficou melhor nos anos seguintes a esta ditadura. Só perto dos anos 90 que veio a “estabilidade” econômica, mas mesmo assim, o presidente que assumiu, e esta no poder ate hoje, e muito criticado.
Da fronteira seguimos sem paradas para a simpática Jinja. Mais uma daquelas cidades que tentam lançar como meca dos esportes radicais, mas e meio forcado, puro marketing turístico. Uma cidade relativamente pequena, mas com uma boa estrutura. Muitos visitam esta cidade só para fazer Rafting (nivel 5) na nascente do rio Nilo. Sim uma das nascentes do Nilo, o rio mais longo do mundo, e aqui. O ônibus nos deixou na estrada, pois seguia para a capital, Kampala. Pegamos 2 Boda-Bodas, que nada mais e que uma motocicleta com pequenas adaptações para levar passageiros e bagagem (ta bom, motoboy, hehe), e fomos para um hotel indicado. Não sabíamos que no final de semana em questão estaria acontecendo a maior feira agropecuária do pais, portanto tudo tava lotado. A Bibi ficou cuidando das mochilas enquanto eu dei uma volta para achar algum lugar para ficarmos. Acabei negociando numa mansão, adaptada a hotel, um super quarto. A Bibi ficou bem feliz, e de sobra, a noite teria um casamento muçulmano no jardim, o qual participamos discretamente.
No outro dia fomos na tal fonte do rio Nilo, que aparentemente não tem nada de especial, mas tudo mudou, quando sentamos numa pedra, ficamos conversando por horas tomando uma cerveja com o nome de ” Nile Special” ! Íamos passar na feira agropecuária depois, mas já era o ultimo dia e estavam desmontando tudo, alem do mais, como a Bibi e de Chapecó, já ta cansada destas feiras…hehe (não podia perder a piada..!!)
Com o centro compacto, e um ótimo lugar para passear, e existem alguns bons e baratos restaurantes. Ficamos um bom tempo no hotel também, onde fizemos alguns amigos que trabalhavam la. Deu vontade de ficar mais tempo, só por causa das pessoas. Ha, ia esquecendo, quando Gandi morreu, seu corpo foi cremado, e suas cinzas espalhadas por alguns lugares. Parte destas cinzas estão no templo Indu daqui. Alias, alem de templos, tem muito restaurante Indiano (comemos num bem gostoso), e Indianos também. No inicio da década de 70, o Amin tava tao incomodado com os asiáticos, que os expulsou do pais, só com as roupas do corpo. Ele “nacionalizou” o comercio, que grande parte era de Indianos e Chineses.
Pegamos um ônibus para Kampala. Viagem tranquila, nem conversamos muito, ficamos só curtindo o visual. O motorista não nos avisou para descer no local que tínhamos pedido, e acabamos no centrão. Um caos nunca visto antes, impressionante mesmo. E para piorar, não estavam aceitando minha nota, pois tava com um selo raspado. Perdemos um tempinho nesta, mas logo pegamos um daladala para o Hotel que tinham nos recomendado. A Bibi foi indo na frente e minha moto estava lenta. Alguns Km depois, parou completamente. O motorista pediu para eu descer, deitou a moto chacoalhando, e me falou: “Agora chega ate o posto de gasolina”. Claro que no posto ele não tinha dinheiro nem pra colocar combustível. Dizem que não colocam combustível para que a moto/carro não sejam roubados, mas acho que e poque são quebrados mesmo.
Chegamos no hotel indicado, que era fora do centro. Tinha tentado ligar de Jinja, mas o numero tinha mudado. Resultado, tava lotado. O da frente era bem tranquilo, mas a Bibi não quis ficar porque não tinha banheiro no quarto. Acabamos indo procurar um outro hotel que não encontramos, e seguimos de volta para o centão barulhento. Eu já tava bem irritado nesta hora porque queria ter ficado já no primeiro. Vimos mais um hotel, mas o custo beneficio não parecia ser dos melhores. Para encurtar a historia, dei uma colher de chá pra Bibi, que tava de TPM, e arrumei um hotel melhor (e caro!). Deu tempo de caminhar um pouco pelo caos desta região ainda antes de dormir.
Dia seguinte fui dar entrada para meu visto da Etiópia, era melhor esperar em Kampala que em Nairóbi sozinho. Vi que a parte de cima da cidade e totalmente diferente, pelo menos para este lado. Poucas quadras do caos do centrão, estão avenidas largas, com arvores floridas. Se afastando ainda mais começam os bairros residenciais, com muitas casas bonitas e algumas mancões. Kampala fica ao longo de sete colinas, portanto tem uma bela vista, e muda muito de uma região para outra. O visto ficaria para o dia seguinte, e voltei para pegar a Bibi e sair a pé pela cidade. Caminhamos bastante, e nos impressionamos com gigantescos pássaros que sobrevoavam a cidade e faziam ninhos nas praças. Como estávamos longe, voltamos de moto, passando pela parte nobre da cidade. Kampala estava surpreendendo bastante. Para fechar o dia, e comemorar que o visto estava encaminhado, fomos jantar num gostoso restaurante Etíope. Restaurante movimentado, comida boa, mas o mais legal foi ver a Bibi comer com as mãos…
Um dia pela manha, começamos a conversar com o garçom, e a conversa se prolongou por horas. Falamos sobre o dia a dia, sobre cultura, e sobre a época do Amin, e claro. Achava que todos odiavam este homem que fez tantas barbaridades, mas descobri que alguns o defendem, dizendo que tem o outro lado da historia…
Bem, o Achi (garçom) foi mais uma daquelas pessoas que nos encantou. Combinamos de nos encontrar depois do expediente dele. Neste tempo saímos para conhecer mais a cidade e buscar o visto que deveria estar pronto. Deveria, mas não estava. Vieram com aquela historia que brasileiros ganham o carimbo quando chegam no aeroporto. Tive que explicar (novamente) que iria por terra, e que nesta fronteira nao davam o visto (eu explicando para o consulado!). Também, porque alguém em sã consciência iria encarar a dura e longa viagem pelo deserto do norte do Kenya/sul da Etiópia? Bem, o problema era meu, e acabaram emitindo o visto na hora mesmo. Ufa!
Tivemos que ligar para o Achi e remarcar para noite. Neste meio tempo corri para conseguir as passagens para Kabale. Inicialmente íamos no ônibus do correio, que diziam que era mais seguro, mas como e pequeno e para o te, pó todo, optamos por ir em um noturno, que vai mais rápido. No horário combinado o Achi apareceu no hotel (que já não era mais o mesmo do primeiro dia, mas acho que não preciso entrar em detalhes,hehe). Saímos para um barzinho, mas estava muito barulhento. Acabamos num bar de um hotel, onde conversamos por algumas horas. O cara e de uma simpatia que não existe, cheio de sonhos, trabalhador, mais uma daquelas historias de vida. Trabalha um monte, e no final do mês ganha USD35. E eu que me achava malandro quando em parte da viagem gastava só USD7 por dia. E o Achi com aquele sorrisão estampado, falando dos seus planos, de seus sonhos. Mesmo com toda a dificuldade, ele se deu ao trabalho de nos trazer lembranças de Uganda. Algumas provavelmente de sua própria casa, outras talvez compradas. Prometemos que tentaríamos ajudar de alguma maneira. Como a vida e dura! E como alguns, mesmo perdendo os pais, trabalhando um monte, não desanimam, nem perdem a vontade de viver.
Ele ainda caminhou com a gente ate o hotel, onde arrumamos as coisa, e antes de sair dei a camiseta do Brasil que tinha acabado de ganhar da mãe/Clau. Logo saímos pois já era perto da meia noite, e tínhamos que pegar o ônibus.
Que amizades fortes, mesmo sendo “tempo relampago”.
Como fico feliz em ler e saber destes relacionamentos tão humanos e verdadeiros.
Compartilho com a alegria de vcs e do Achi, alem dos outros…
Penso que vc esta cada vez mais “Africanizado”…pelas emoções e vivencias …compreendo e “to contigo e não abro”!
Cuidado só com os tranportes meu genro querido…as cargas são preciosas!
Eu queria ir no onibus do correio, a Bibi que achou que seria muito ” empenho”. Ja estamos saos e salvos de volta a Tanzania, e so um trem nossepara de Dar es salam. Agora e tranquilo…
Bjs a todos
Muito maneiro meu amigo!
Teu livro já tem editora?
Não tem como vcs não deixarem esta viagem registrada em um livro, vai ser um sucesso com certeza!
Todas as fotos foram tiradas por vcs?
Impressionante a qualidade das imagens!
Porra, devia fazer uns meses que vc nao entrava no blog ne?! seu v…
Imagens 100! canever!!
Tem pelo menos umas 10 fotos para prêmio de fotografia neste blog.
Parabéns e força para o casal!
Tenho mais de 10 cd/DVDS GRAVADOS COM FOTOS? alguma tinha que sair boa.haha
I see you ve already tried injera 🙂 Will have plenty of it in Ethiopia 😉
I hope so, I liked!!
Nice to see you here. Just wrote on your blog, but don’t know if it worked, cause my polish is bad!!!
IDI AMIN THE MAN OF ALL THE SEASONS.
(THE GOLDEN BOY OF AFRICA)
He is remembered to be a fan person. One day while attending an international common wealth conference in Scotland, he made the queen to wonder. Due to the fact that he did not know English, he instructed his interpreter to pinch him by the thy whenever it necessited to laugh. By coincidence, the interpreter touched his thy when something sad was said and the President burst into laughter, sending many to wonder including the queen of what had happened. Imagine among thousands of attendants, its only him who laughed.
On return home, the interpreter had to face it rough by receiving many stroke from the president for having ashamed him in the conference.
Although majority remember him as a good statesman, Indian have totally a negative view for what their Fathers and grand Fathers went through, though to some who migrated to UK,CANADA, USA, BRAZIL etc it was a blessing in disguise.
Though some may argue that Amin was a Dictator, he was on the other hand an achiever for Uganda as follows;
1. He established many infrastructures like the today’s main hospital in Uganda known as Mulago, many school were established during his regime and roads put to shape.
2. He used to settle disputes among government officials amicably.
3. He enhanced the economy of Uganda, where by the gap between the poor and the rich was minimal.
4. He was such a social person i.e on several occasions; he joined people at the football pitches to participate in the game.
5. He had respect for all the tribal groups in Uganda, hence winning their allegency.
Full name Idi Amin Dada Oumee. AKA ‘Big Daddy’, AKA ‘Butcher of Africa’, AKA ‘Conqueror of the British Empire’, AKA ‘Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea’.
And some other Titles like; His Excellency Field Marshal Idi Amin Dada, Ex President of Uganda, Conqueror of the British Empire, Victorious Cross Member of the Excellent Order of the source of the Nile(not to mention wife-Eater, Beer Swiller Pub Singer, Bloody Dictator and damned Fool).
Background: The British Government declares Uganda its protectorate in 1894. Surrounding kingdoms are incorporated, with the borders becoming fixed in 1914. Independence was achieved peacefully on 9 October 1962 but rising tensions between the country’s different ethnic groups see Prime Minister Milton Obote impose a new republican constitution establishing himself as president and abolishing all the country’s kingdoms. Ethnic tensions continue to rise. Idi Amin seizes power in a coup in January 1971.
Mini biography: Idi Amin Dada is said to have been born between 1923 and 1925 into the Kakwa tribe in Koboko, near Arua in the northwest corner of Uganda, close to the borders with the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Sudan. His father was a farmer and a follower of Islam. His mother was a member of the Lugbara tribe and is said to practice sorcery.
(Amin’s younger brother, Amule, claims that Amin was in fact born in Kampala, the capital of Uganda, and that their father was working as a policeman there at the time.)
Amin’s parents are said to have separated soon after his birth. Amin was raised by his mother, who becomes a camp follower of the King’s African Rifles, a regiment of the British colonial army. She had more children from other relationships, with Amin becoming the third of eight siblings.
Said to have Amin is received only a rudimentary education but excels at sports and reportedly converts to Islam at an early age.
1946 – He joins the King’s African Rifles as an assistant cook. In 1948 he is promoted to corporal. By 1958 he is sergeant-major and platoon commander.
1951 – Amin became the heavyweight boxing champion of Uganda, holding the title until 1960.
1952 – He serves in the British action against the Mau Mau revolt in Kenya (1952-56) and is described by officials as “a splendid type and a good (rugby) player, but virtually bone from the neck up, and needs things explained in words of one letter.”
1959 – He was made a warrant officer with the rank of ‘effendi’, a position specially created by the colonial army for noncommissioned Africans with leadership potential.
1961 – He rose to the rank of lieutenant, becoming one of only two native Ugandans to be commissioned during British rule.
1962 – Troops under Amin’s command committed the ‘Turkana Massacre’ while conducting an operation to suppress cattle stealing by tribesmen spilling into the north of Uganda from the neighbouring Turkana region of Kenya. Investigations by the British authorities in Kenya reveal that the victims of the massacre had been tortured, beaten to death and, in some cases, buried alive. However, with Uganda’s independence only months away, the authorities decide against court-martialling Amin for his “overzealous” methods.
Uganda achieves independence from Britain on 9 October. The king of the Baganda tribe, Sir Edward Mutesa, becomes the new nation’s first president. The government is led by Prime Minister Milton Obote, who Amin supports.
Overlooking the charges of torture, Obote promotes Amin to major in 1963 and to colonel and deputy commander of the army and air force in 1964, the same year that Amin helps put down an army mutiny at Jinja, Uganda’s second city.
Shortly after independence Amin is sent to Israel on a paratrooper training course. He will become a favourite of the Israelis when he acts as a conduit for the supply of arms and ammunition to Israeli-backed rebels fighting a war in southern Sudan.
1966 – Following a financial scandal implicating Obote and Amin in gold smuggling, and on the back of growing opposition from King Mutesa, Obote suspends the constitution, arrests half his cabinet, and installs himself as president for life. King Mutesa is driven from his palace in a military operation led by Amin and forced into exile. A new constitution abolishes all the country’s kingdoms.
Amin is subsequently promoted to major-general and appointed chief of the army and air force. He begins to build a support base in the army by recruiting from his own Kakwa tribe. However, his relations with Obote start to sour.
1969 – In December an unsuccessful attempt is made to assassinate Obote. Brigadier Pierino Okoya, the deputy chief of the army and Amin’s sole rival among senior army officers, tells Obote and Amin that the net is closing in on the perpetrators and that all will be revealed at a second meeting scheduled for 26 January 1970.
1970 – On 25 January Okoya and his wife are shot dead at their home. Relations between Obote and Amin deteriorate further following the murder. In November Obote removes Amin from his command positions and places him in an administrative role.
1971 – Amin discovers that Obote intends to arrest him on charges of misappropriating millions of dollars of military funds. On 25 January, while Obote is out of the country attending the Commonwealth Conference in Singapore, Amin stages a coup that is later reported to have been backed by Israel and welcomed by the British.
Amin’s military government accuses Obote and his regime of corruption, economic mismanagement, suppressing democracy, and failing to maintain law and order. Obote later calls Amin “the greatest brute an African mother has ever brought to life.”
The coup is initially supported by Ugandans, with Amin promising to abolish Obote’s secret police, free all political prisoners, introduce economic reforms, and quickly return the country to civilian rule. However, elections will never be held during Amin’s reign.
“I am not an ambitious man, personally,” Amin says after taking power, “I am just a soldier with a concern for my country and its people.”
Amin is declared president and chief of the armed forces. Almost immediately he initiates mass executions of officers and troops he believes to be loyal to Obote. Thirty-two army officers die when dynamite blows up the cell in which they are being held at the Makindye Prison in Kampala. Overall, as many as two-thirds of the army’s 9,000 soldiers are executed during Amin’s first year in power.
In foreign affairs, Amin is initially pro-West and inclined towards Britain and Israel. His first overseas trip as president is a state visit to Israel. This is followed a separate state visit to London that includes a meeting with Queen Elizabeth II.
However, his position changes after he returns from a trip to Libya around the end of 1971.
1972 – Now determined to make Uganda “a black man’s country”, Amin expels the country’s 40,000-80,000 Indians and Pakistanis in the closing months of the year, reportedly after receiving a message from God during a dream.
“I am going to ask Britain to take responsibility for all Asians in Uganda who are holding British passports, because they are sabotaging the economy of the country,” Amin declares at the start of August.
The Asians, most of who are third-generation descendants of workers brought to Uganda by the British colonial administration, are given 90 days to leave the country and are only allowed to take what they can carry. “If they do not leave they will find themselves sitting on the fire,” Amin warns. The businesses, homes and possessions they leave behind are distributed without compensation to Amin’s military favourites.
With the true nature of Amin’s regime becoming apparent, the British and Israeli governments begin to back-pedal on their support, refusing to sell him more arms.
Amin then looks to Libya for aid, promising Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi that he will turn Uganda into an Islamic state. The Soviet Union also provides aid and arms for a time.
Amin now challenges Britain and the United States, breaks relations with Israel, and throws his support behind the Palestinian liberation movement. British property in Uganda is appropriated, business relations between the two countries are restricted, and those Britons remaining in Uganda are threatened with expulsion.
To secure his regime Amin launches a campaign of persecution against rival tribes and Obote supporters, murdering between 100,000 and 500,000 (most sources say 300,000).
Among those to die are ordinary citizens, former and serving Cabinet ministers, the chief justice, Supreme Court judges, diplomats, academics, educators, prominent Roman Catholic and Anglican clergy, senior bureaucrats, medical practitioners, bankers, tribal leaders, business executives, journalists and a number of foreigners.
In some cases entire villages are wiped out. So many corpses are thrown into the Nile that workers at one location have to continuously fish them out to stop the intake ducts at a nearby dam from becoming clogged.
The size of the army is increased, and much of the country’s budget is diverted from civilian to military spending. Military tribunals are placed above the civil courts, soldiers are appointed to top government posts, parliament is dissolved and civilian Cabinet ministers are informed that they will be subject to military discipline.
Ruling by decree, Amin also creates his own security apparatus to identify and eliminate opponents. At its height, the security force will consist of about 18,000 men serving in three squads – the Public Safety Unit, the State Research Bureau and the military police. Amin’s Presidential Guard also doubles as a death squad, as well as protecting the dictator from the many assassination attempts made against him.
As terror reigns Uganda’s economy begins to collapse, partially through mismanagement and partially as a result of the expulsion of the Indians and Pakistanis, who had formed the country’s economic backbone.
1975 – Amin promotes himself to field marshal and awards himself the Victoria Cross. The following year he declares himself president for life.
During 1975 he stages a publicity stunt for the world media, forcing white residents of Kampala to carry him on a throne then kneel before him and recite an oath of loyalty.
In the summer, Denis Hills, a Uganda-based British subject, is sentenced to death by the regime for describing Amin as a “village tyrant.” The sentence is dropped only after the British foreign secretary travels to Kampala to plead for Hills’ life.
Hills, who is eventually freed, later warns against viewing Amin as a buffoon or murderer, explaining that Amin’s “aggressive black national leadership” had won him many admirers in Africa.
“(Amin) has the successful tribal chief’s compensatory qualities for his lack of formal education: cunning, a talent for survival, personal strength and courage, an ability to measure his opponents weaknesses and his subject’s wishes,” Hills says.
“It is not enough to dismiss Amin as a buffoon or murderer. … He is an African reality. He has realised an African dream. The creation of a truly black state. He has called into being a new crude, but vigorous, middle class of technicians and businessmen.”
Meanwhile, Amin takes up the rotating position of head of the Organisation for African Unity, but is largely seen as an embarrassment. During the same period, Uganda is appointed to the United Nations Commission on Human Rights.
1976 – Amin becomes personally involved in hostage negotiations with Israel when pro-Palestinian guerrillas hijack an Air France passenger jet carrying 105 Israelis and Jews on 27 June and order it fly to Entebbe in Uganda. However, he is deeply humiliated when Israeli commandos stage a successful raid and rescue the passengers on 4 July.
Only two of the hostages are killed during the 58-minute operation and only one is left behind; Dora Bloch, a British-Israeli grandmother who had been released by the hijackers for medical treatment.
Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin later accuses Amin of “collaborating with the terrorists while using deceit and false pretences” during the hostage negotiations. Amin is also accused of allowing reinforcements to join the original four hijackers.
In the wake of the Entebbe raid a furious Amin has Dora Bloch and more than 200 senior officers and government officials executed. He also expels foreigners from Uganda and unleashes a new round of violence, ordering the execution of anyone suspected of opposing him.
At the end of July Britain breaks off diplomatic relations with Amin’s regime. Amin declares that he has beaten the British and confers upon himself the title of ‘Conqueror of the British Empire’.
1977 – In January Amin accuses the Anglican archbishop of Uganda of conspiring in an invasion plot. The next day the archbishop and two Cabinet ministers are murdered.
The US, meanwhile, cuts off aid to Uganda, with President Jimmy Carter saying that Amin’s policies “disgusted the entire civilised world.”
1978 – The price of coffee, Uganda’s main export, begins to fall, further damaging the already staggering Ugandan economy. Armed rebellions break out in the southwest, coup attempts become an ever-present threat, and the Libyans begin to cut aid.
In an attempt to divert attention from the country’s internal problems, Amin launches an attack on Tanzania, a neighbouring country to the south, at the end of October. Tanzanian troops, assisted by armed Ugandan exiles, quickly put Amin’s army to flight and counter-invade.
1979 – Beating back the Ugandan’s heavy resistance, the invading Tanzanian forces take Kampala on 11 April. Amin flees to Libya, taking his four wives, several of his 30 mistresses and about 20 of his children.
After begin asked to leave Libya he lives for a time in Iraq before finally settling in the port city of Jeddah in Saudi Arabia, where he is allowed to stay provided he keeps out of politics. The Saudis provide him with a monthly stipend of about US$1,400, domestic servants, cooks, drivers and cars. He leads a comfortable life with his four wives in a modest house.
Besides a huge death toll, Amin has left Uganda with an annual inflation rate of 200%, a national debt of US$320 million, an agricultural sector in tatters, closed factories and ruined businesses.
1980 – Milton Obote returns to power in Uganda following a general election. Obote’s second administration is said to be at least as violent as Amin’s, with security forces mercilessly combating an insurgency movement. According to the current government of Uganda, more than 500,000 civilians die as a result of the conflict. Obote is once again ousted in July 1985.
1989 – Amin attempts to return to Uganda to reclaim power but is identified at Kinshasa, Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo), and forced to return to Saudi Arabia.
1999 – Amin gives an interview to an Ugandan newspaper, saying he likes to play the accordion, fish, swim, recite from the Koran and read. He expresses no remorse for the abuses of his regime and is reported to say, “I’m very happy now, much happier now then when I was president.”
2001 – It is reported that Amin wishes to return to Uganda. He continues to be popular in his home province and begins to fund the rebuilding of family properties destroyed by the Tanzanian troops who expelled him in 1979.
The Ugandan Government says that Amin is free to return but would have to “answer for his sins” and would be dealt with according to the law. Amin’s relatives are able to travel to and from Uganda, and several of his children live and work there.
2002 – Uganda officially celebrates Amin’s downfall for the first time.
2003 – In July Amin is reported to be in a coma and on life support in the intensive care unit of the King Faisal specialist hospital in Jeddah, where he has been receiving treatment for hypertension and general fatigue for three months. He had been admitted to the hospital with high blood pressure on 18 July. It is also reported that he is suffering from kidney failure but has refused treatment for the condition.
The current president of Uganda, Yoweri Museveni, says he will arrest Amin if he returns to the country alive but if he dies abroad his body could be brought back for burial.
“If Amin comes back breathing or conscious I will arrest him because he committed crimes here,” Museveni says, adding that if his body is brought back for burial “we shall
Its very important to know that are 2 sides of the story. Im not judging wich side is correct, but is nice to know what part of the population thinks…
Thanks to participate.